> Just offer a reason to align with you—anything other than a lose-lose-lose—and you’ll see more Viveks come out of the woodwork.
Reason 568306714392 why 'the right' is extraordinarily bad at [democratic] politics. They don't know how to build coalitions; they just expect people to fall in line according to 'principles' and 'priorities'.
There is tons of talk by various dissidents about how 'we need to be more like the left', but the left (and even liberals + libertarians) know how to offer carrots, even small ones that net massive gains in loyalty and evangelism.
That’s why so-called aspiring ‘Elite Human Capital’ in the dorky I.Q. Right shouldn’t shit on poor and working class whites so much while fetishizjng Jews and Asians. The dorks need to network and build workable political alliances beyond their little online safe spaces if they want I get anywhere politically in the real world.
Rootless cosmopolitanism is quite destructive in all levels. Thinking oneself ‘a citizen of the world’ is a delusion. There is no such thing in reality.
Values like openness and progress may not fully reflect the world right now. But you mentioned building “coalitions rooted in shared interests” as the ideal. A regime built on circling the wagons, fear, and domination is hardly attractive to people with choices.
What is considered ‘progress’ is open to debate. Fear of demographic displacement and replacement is not unreasonable considering the massive transformation we see from Germany to Springfield, Ohio. I am for ‘openness’ up to a point but not including self-destruction. There are limits to everything in life and society.
My view: show respect to anyone who demonstrates respect to America’s heritage, regardless of their origin. There are major differences within populations that make it dumb to stereotype too hard. People overthink and overgeneralize these things imo.
>Just offer a reason to align with you—anything other than a lose-lose-lose—and you’ll see more Viveks come out of the woodwork.
East Asians are relatively wealthy and more likely to own businesses, and they live in cities in close proximity to more criminally inclined groups that take advantage of them. Vote for Republicans and you get lower taxes, pro-business policies, and tough-on-crime policies that stifle urban criminals and give East Asians the ability to defend themselves with guns. Vote for Democrats and you get higher taxes, face Affirmative Action at unis, have no ability to defend your home or business, and have to deal with higher crime rates that go ignored. And yet, in spite of all of this, East Asians are blue and probably going to get bluer. So if East Asians aren't even willing to go to the Mundane Right, I see no reason to blame a lack of an Asian coalition with the Dissident Right on anti-Asian sentiment. Especially when the brazen bull of the DNC is a demographic known for attacking Asian people on the street simply for being Asian.
East Asian voting patterns don't reflect East Asian absence on the DR, because they aren't choosing between the DR and the Non-DR. They're choosing between ordinary Republicans who usually glaze them as "model minorities" to the chagrin of Asians, and Democrats who make their lives worse. This is why people think Asians are ingrates. White people *like* Asians, and Asians don't reciprocate it. I'm not talking about the BAPs of the world, I'm talking about ordinary, lukewarm conservative Whites. So what would be the point of trying to attract East Asians to a movement that has most of the characteristics of Conservatism, with most of the added content suggesting a harder to avoid rivalry between Whites and Asians on the horizon.
Everyone knew Vivek was unctuous from the start. He can get away with saying GR stuff because he is brown. It isn't that much of a test of courage. Asian Americans are just extremely puzzling from the point of view of the DR. They have nice countries that they could go back to, countries that might need them. But they decide to live in Amerikwa city center. Most of them have family in those countries and are fairly recent arrivals. A lot of people on the DR see this and they wish they could have this. It's kind of a fantasy view of East Asian countries albeit -- they have many problems and there are Woke types in Japan and Korea who are really hellbent on increasing immigration. It's probably not as different from European politics as one might think. But the reason Americans don't ship off back to Europe is because this is our country, and we believe our forefathers designed it for us. If Asians aren't shipping off back to Korea or China now that they're not such shitholes, and if they don't have American values or respect American history, then the obvious reason is that they feel entitled to America as their oyster.
What sort of 'rewards'? And how is what (theoretically) happened in 'Asian countries' at all relevant to White countries? Smacks of race-communism. Which is Wokeism.
What if whites’ relative lack of ethnocentrism is exactly what allowed the creation of great empires that pulled talent from the rest of the world? I know some of you are content to shrink into hobbit states like Ukraine. I wish you the best—and if you succeed, I’ll self-deport quickly.
Those great empires didn't pull talent from the rest of the world, though. Those great empires were basically entirely driven by European genius, and the rest of the world silently sat by and watched. There is a connection between the White success story and the lack of ethnocentrism, but the current lack of ethnocentrism among Whites is due to ideological changes and only slightly spurred on by the individualistic nature of Whites.
> Just offer a reason to align with you—anything other than a lose-lose-lose—and you’ll see more Viveks come out of the woodwork.
Reason 568306714392 why 'the right' is extraordinarily bad at [democratic] politics. They don't know how to build coalitions; they just expect people to fall in line according to 'principles' and 'priorities'.
There is tons of talk by various dissidents about how 'we need to be more like the left', but the left (and even liberals + libertarians) know how to offer carrots, even small ones that net massive gains in loyalty and evangelism.
That’s why so-called aspiring ‘Elite Human Capital’ in the dorky I.Q. Right shouldn’t shit on poor and working class whites so much while fetishizjng Jews and Asians. The dorks need to network and build workable political alliances beyond their little online safe spaces if they want I get anywhere politically in the real world.
It’s OK to be a poor or working-class white. Some of my favorite Vice Presidential candidates come from that background!
But at a certain level of talent, cosmopolitanism is just expected. Why limit yourself? Think: “I’m not black, I’m O.J.”
Rootless cosmopolitanism is quite destructive in all levels. Thinking oneself ‘a citizen of the world’ is a delusion. There is no such thing in reality.
Values like openness and progress may not fully reflect the world right now. But you mentioned building “coalitions rooted in shared interests” as the ideal. A regime built on circling the wagons, fear, and domination is hardly attractive to people with choices.
What is considered ‘progress’ is open to debate. Fear of demographic displacement and replacement is not unreasonable considering the massive transformation we see from Germany to Springfield, Ohio. I am for ‘openness’ up to a point but not including self-destruction. There are limits to everything in life and society.
Sure, I have not been convinced by any of the pro-Open Borders arguments I’ve heard so far.
My view: show respect to anyone who demonstrates respect to America’s heritage, regardless of their origin. There are major differences within populations that make it dumb to stereotype too hard. People overthink and overgeneralize these things imo.
Respect is fine. Admittance is another
>Just offer a reason to align with you—anything other than a lose-lose-lose—and you’ll see more Viveks come out of the woodwork.
East Asians are relatively wealthy and more likely to own businesses, and they live in cities in close proximity to more criminally inclined groups that take advantage of them. Vote for Republicans and you get lower taxes, pro-business policies, and tough-on-crime policies that stifle urban criminals and give East Asians the ability to defend themselves with guns. Vote for Democrats and you get higher taxes, face Affirmative Action at unis, have no ability to defend your home or business, and have to deal with higher crime rates that go ignored. And yet, in spite of all of this, East Asians are blue and probably going to get bluer. So if East Asians aren't even willing to go to the Mundane Right, I see no reason to blame a lack of an Asian coalition with the Dissident Right on anti-Asian sentiment. Especially when the brazen bull of the DNC is a demographic known for attacking Asian people on the street simply for being Asian.
East Asian voting patterns don't reflect East Asian absence on the DR, because they aren't choosing between the DR and the Non-DR. They're choosing between ordinary Republicans who usually glaze them as "model minorities" to the chagrin of Asians, and Democrats who make their lives worse. This is why people think Asians are ingrates. White people *like* Asians, and Asians don't reciprocate it. I'm not talking about the BAPs of the world, I'm talking about ordinary, lukewarm conservative Whites. So what would be the point of trying to attract East Asians to a movement that has most of the characteristics of Conservatism, with most of the added content suggesting a harder to avoid rivalry between Whites and Asians on the horizon.
Everyone knew Vivek was unctuous from the start. He can get away with saying GR stuff because he is brown. It isn't that much of a test of courage. Asian Americans are just extremely puzzling from the point of view of the DR. They have nice countries that they could go back to, countries that might need them. But they decide to live in Amerikwa city center. Most of them have family in those countries and are fairly recent arrivals. A lot of people on the DR see this and they wish they could have this. It's kind of a fantasy view of East Asian countries albeit -- they have many problems and there are Woke types in Japan and Korea who are really hellbent on increasing immigration. It's probably not as different from European politics as one might think. But the reason Americans don't ship off back to Europe is because this is our country, and we believe our forefathers designed it for us. If Asians aren't shipping off back to Korea or China now that they're not such shitholes, and if they don't have American values or respect American history, then the obvious reason is that they feel entitled to America as their oyster.
Aren't there whole continents full of 'Asians' that need your 'elite human capital'?
Whites need to side with Whites. If non-Whites want to side with Whites it's on them, it has nothing to do with Whites.
The only 'coalition' Whites need is with each other.
The frequent attempts to dilute White interests with that of non-Whites just shows how valuable White Nationalism is (even at this early state).
I’m not Woke; I don’t set a double-standard here. The Asian countries that are more friendly to foreigners have reaped obvious rewards.
What sort of 'rewards'? And how is what (theoretically) happened in 'Asian countries' at all relevant to White countries? Smacks of race-communism. Which is Wokeism.
I mean wealth, health, peace, human rights, freedom—anyone with a lick of education can name several East Asian countries with these.
Having these qualities makes a place a desirable target for immigration. Superior countries seduce, and are not prisons.
Whites need more ethnocentrism not less. Surprised you haven’t noticed that. Sorry pajeet but not sorry
What if whites’ relative lack of ethnocentrism is exactly what allowed the creation of great empires that pulled talent from the rest of the world? I know some of you are content to shrink into hobbit states like Ukraine. I wish you the best—and if you succeed, I’ll self-deport quickly.
Those great empires didn't pull talent from the rest of the world, though. Those great empires were basically entirely driven by European genius, and the rest of the world silently sat by and watched. There is a connection between the White success story and the lack of ethnocentrism, but the current lack of ethnocentrism among Whites is due to ideological changes and only slightly spurred on by the individualistic nature of Whites.
BAP is Jewish.